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Fred
Tue Jan 22 2013, 05:12PM

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I was hearing a thumpa-thumpa sound so we pulled off all four wheels and founf it broke. Anyone know a good source for the spring seat?





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There is a guy parting out a bus over there close to you, it might be a good place to find what you need. This is how it is listed in the for sale section, "Parting Out or Selling Entire 79 Bus"

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http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=23662
not sure if this is what you need or not? but it is what came up doing a google search.


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I can get the coil locally from a guy salvaging out an 82 vgon but my book also is showing an upper and lower 'spring seat'. This one seems missing, never noticed it before

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I think I know what your talking about...it is like a giant washer with a beveled edge to hold the sping in place? I'm sure they are out there and likely not a vanagon specific part, I'm not sure what they are called though. if you know the required hole size and spring width, you could probably find one at Napa for a different vehicle that would fit. (if we are talking about the same thing; it has been years since I have been under a vanagon.

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Rear coil springs have color coded bands painted on them, I've noticed different ride heights with the different colors. You may want to get both rear springs and replace yours as a pair.

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So are the spring seats just pads???
http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=4346&category_id=4090&category_parent_id=

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those are what you use to raise the rear of a vannie. I made mine out of cutting boards. I have a couple of parts vannies here later md

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Not sure if you need to beef up the trailing arm and the bump stop, but here is some of my very bad welding and fabrication skills on display. I used a plastic cutting board to make the donut disc that sits on top of the trailing arm with a hole in the middle for the bump stop. This levelled out the van and has kept me from chewing through front tires.

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markdearing wrote ...

those are what you use to raise the rear of a vannie. I made mine out of cutting boards. I have a couple of parts vannies here later md



OK , the spring itself is not broken but it is loose on the bottom.

I have searched around and its still not clear if this is a pad for the top as Mark said or a solid object to hold it firmly in place. The Bently calls it a 'seat'

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let me know if you need to borrow a spring compressor.

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ahhh, gowesty call this a spring plate, but thats not missing






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http://www.vanagonparts.com/images/tech/suspension_rear.gif

does this help ?



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Pete, What year vanagon? I have 2 85 GL's I'm parting out.
If I can help I will. Just have to wait until next week to get them out. Too cold to be working outside.

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I have looked at those same images. Let me recount this issue. We were checking around for the source of a noise- a thump when the van dipped on a bump. I grabbed the coil spring and I could shake it around on the lower end. Upon a second inspection I could see the spring was ok but the seat or pad had disintergrated. The plate with the nob is intact. Gowesty sells a rubber pad for the top end but whatever was on the bottom is not rubber and its not clear to me what goes on the bottom

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maybe its missing this ... http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_294 ??
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Thats looks like a winner, its got the notch for the tail of the spring. - but Out Of Stock !

I understand now what Mark wrote about using a 'cutting board'.




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looks like the cutting board is your answer or the guy parting out that 85? westy
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hey fred we use the cutting boards cut into nthat shape but stacked to get the rear of the vannies to level with the front , might take 2 or 3 of them to work later md

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One side of mine had remnants of a thin, maybe 1/8", dense plastic disc under the spring. If you go to the cutting board, I wonder if you could melt that seat part into the board by heating up the spring. Would that be bad for the spring?

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find someone with a water jet and that spacer is finished to size in 30 seconds flat, multiple copies can be fashioned from the same blank at the same time,

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Bought these locally, black pieces look good , pretty solid, other stuff is soft and also falling apart.





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Let us know how they work out.

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Hey, going to need a couple more of these nylon pads, my friends tire is rubbing against spring

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